tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912730.post115421971200040880..comments2024-01-06T00:28:45.062+08:00Comments on Bibliobibuli: Blogwash? Hogwash!bibliobibulihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16456636355933524132noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912730.post-1154921431514488132006-08-07T11:30:00.000+08:002006-08-07T11:30:00.000+08:00dean - weird? in some ways certainly. but that w...dean - weird? in some ways certainly. but that weirdness makes for fun in some ways. and it's good to have things to kick against. <BR/><BR/>yang-may - thanks for the link. you say it all so well. i don't know whether there was any follow-up in the malay mail ... wasn't reading while i was away but will check the back issues before i recycle 'em<BR/><BR/>totally depleted - i think the writers of that article feel they can get away with shoddy writing because they are writing for mainstream media which confers automatic superiority on their effort even if they write unsubstantiated poorly argued crap. if it was a blog post it'd be shot down pretty fast by the readers! irony innit? <BR/><BR/>lainie - yeah, one day bloggers are flavour of the month in the MM and invoked to fill pages. next they're down the plug-hole. whatever suits them.<BR/><BR/>sympozium - haha. glad you recycle your newspapers.bibliobibulihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16456636355933524132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912730.post-1154574813918884332006-08-03T11:13:00.000+08:002006-08-03T11:13:00.000+08:00The Malay Mail is a huge disgrace to journalism. I...The Malay Mail is a huge disgrace to journalism. I wouldn't use it to wipe my ass after taking a dump - too much crap (the paper, not my ass).Poppadumdumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11763910123949254981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912730.post-1154509781003962842006-08-02T17:09:00.000+08:002006-08-02T17:09:00.000+08:00haha..i just realised it might look like something...haha..i just realised it might look like something newspapers don't want to do, letting the newsreaders know that the internet is a good place to find information, discussion, commentary and articles on the current local issues.lainieyeohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02195554155928295081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912730.post-1154495261013246522006-08-02T13:07:00.000+08:002006-08-02T13:07:00.000+08:00strange, after their 'blogging babes' article.Anyh...strange, after their 'blogging babes' article.<BR/><BR/>Anyhow, I was looking at the answers, and it would imply they have a lot of leading questions. <BR/>ie: Should blogs be a place for exaggeration of the news to mislead the public?<BR/>obvious answer: no.lainieyeohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02195554155928295081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912730.post-1154407281146458852006-08-01T12:41:00.000+08:002006-08-01T12:41:00.000+08:00So, does the Malay Mail want to play the role of B...So, does the Malay Mail want to play the role of Blog Police? Who died and made the king?Sofianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13148125124060633332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912730.post-1154352519778442932006-07-31T21:28:00.000+08:002006-07-31T21:28:00.000+08:00Hi SharonThere's a lot of anxiety in the tradition...Hi Sharon<BR/><BR/>There's a lot of anxiety in the traditional press and among the general reading public about blogs, partly because of lack of knowledge. I wrote about the power of blogging a while back in my post http://www.fusionview.co.uk/2006/04/power-to-bloggers/ which your readers might find interesting.<BR/><BR/>Part of the issue is about trusting the person who is writing. Your identity is clear on your site - who you are and what you do. That fosters a sense of trust and respect when one come across your site. It also makes you accountable and responsible for what you say in your posts. That I think is the key.<BR/><BR/>While I do think the survey and article you mention comes to some ludicrous conclusions, it is nonetheless right that people approach sources of information with initial scepticism - including the traditional news media sources and gossip over a cup of coffee. Otherwise, we'd all be fools and easily led by anyone telling us things we want to hear. <BR/><BR/>The irony of course as you point out is the question of the accountability and responsibility of the Malay Mail in the way it researched the "survey". Have many bloggers written into the paper raising all the issues that are raised in your blog? That might make for some fun reading in the letters section of the paper!<BR/><BR/>Yang-May Ooi, Fusion View<BR/>www.fusionview.co.ukAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912730.post-1154349641340344922006-07-31T20:40:00.000+08:002006-07-31T20:40:00.000+08:00Wow. I mean WOW! What a weird country you live in....Wow. I mean WOW! What a weird country you live in...<BR/><BR/>I sure as hell would get pissed if they ran a story in the papers here like that. What a bunch of wackos! I could get started, but I won't. That'll do, that'll do now...Matthew da Silvahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07158988637117138260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912730.post-1154269610167519482006-07-30T22:26:00.000+08:002006-07-30T22:26:00.000+08:00acid burn - the print media are just feeling threa...acid burn - <I>the print media are just feeling threatened by bloggers..</I> as well they should! the writing is often much better and as kak teh says, how boring life would be if we only had the print media to go back to<BR/><BR/>has it also struck you all that many of the best bloggers do write for print media but write much more exciting stuff online where they have their own space without word limit and editors?<BR/><BR/>ms d - i think that's a very intersting point you make about blogs giving an overview of malaysian society at a particular point in time<BR/><BR/>cw - i think waht you say is spot on and maybe people need to be educated about how to read blogs<BR/><BR/>amir - i don't blame you but miss you in my malay mail! but it<BR/>'s right isn't it ... the newspapers feel they can quote stuff from blogs to illustrate the way public opinion is swinging and then the next moment slam us all for writing nonsense ...bibliobibulihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16456636355933524132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912730.post-1154266601679088532006-07-30T21:36:00.000+08:002006-07-30T21:36:00.000+08:00ah well, the print media are just feeling threaten...ah well, the print media are just feeling threatened by bloggers..acid burnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11045244821676835202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912730.post-1154265239120680632006-07-30T21:13:00.000+08:002006-07-30T21:13:00.000+08:00Many people don't realise how different blogs are ...Many people don't realise how different blogs are from "traditional" websites, especially if they are comparing them with company or organisational websites in which content is carefully vetted and in most cases "approved" before posting. Blogs on the other hand are completely individual and uncontrolled - and if you think of them as being another way of interacting with others and having a <I>conversation</I> on topics that interest you, then it doesn't matter if they are not always 100% factual or correct or whatever. After all, when we talk we are not always "right" or unbiased or clever or witty! (This accounts for the extremist views we see on some blogs - I agree, Sharon, I'd rather see these sorts of horrific statements than ban them, even if they do make my hair stand on end...) As you say, when looking at anything online, it's always worth considering what you're reading, who the author was, what his/her agenda is, if any, and what others have said about the topic. Come to think of it, this applies to reading stuff in print, too.flexnibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09571073352491626815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912730.post-1154257487402986722006-07-30T19:04:00.000+08:002006-07-30T19:04:00.000+08:00Well, I'm not working there anymore.So...ladidadid...Well, I'm not working there anymore.<BR/><BR/>So...ladidadida...ladida.<BR/><BR/>Muahahahaha.Amir Hafizihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11371404893050352294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912730.post-1154256465302259602006-07-30T18:47:00.000+08:002006-07-30T18:47:00.000+08:00miss d, i want! >:)~miss d, i want! >:)~<Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912730.post-1154236721672838322006-07-30T13:18:00.000+08:002006-07-30T13:18:00.000+08:00http://bicaralelaki.blogspot.com/2006/06/blog-your...http://bicaralelaki.blogspot.com/2006/06/blog-yourself.html<BR/><BR/>you might want to read this.<BR/><BR/>sharon if you want the erotic site's url drop me a line. don't want to clutter your comments box. unless others want to know :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912730.post-1154236641594710282006-07-30T13:17:00.000+08:002006-07-30T13:17:00.000+08:00Gwarh!If that ever happens, I might as well ready ...Gwarh!<BR/><BR/>If that ever happens, I might as well ready myself for acouple of jail sentences...considering that I've blown my trumpet quite a lot on my blog.<BR/><BR/>All the more reason we need something like a PEN set up in Malaysia to protect the rights of writers/bloggers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912730.post-1154236485448081702006-07-30T13:14:00.000+08:002006-07-30T13:14:00.000+08:00i enjoy reading personal blogs because of the wit,...i enjoy reading personal blogs because of the wit, humour and emotions behind them. also, it's a great way to study malaysians, and what they think. you're able to see real life, which is important to understanding the social history of the country. sure some write about their kids' nappies etc, but it describes a landscape and a network not seen in the 70s, 80s etc. i mean, for eg. a blog about a mother has a band of like-minded readers that support her from all over the world!<BR/><BR/>in fact a friend forwarded me an erotic malay blog yesterday, and i read it. sure it's fantastical but what i enjoyed was that it had a story line. it wasn't just sex, it was about how a young girl viewed society. it wasn't just gratious /tabloid sex. <BR/><BR/>haiyah i never pay attention to these kind of surveys. they don't pay my car loan and rent. :DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912730.post-1154233946316591682006-07-30T12:32:00.000+08:002006-07-30T12:32:00.000+08:00Alarming...not so much the results, as is the risi...Alarming...not so much the results, as is the rising tide of intolerence in this country... sigh...<BR/><BR/>I don't read the Malay mail, so thx for putting this up.dreameridiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14124953269206273794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912730.post-1154227410501561192006-07-30T10:43:00.000+08:002006-07-30T10:43:00.000+08:00I think we should collect the names of the people ...I think we should collect the names of the people surveyed and sterilize them. The gene pool is bad enough already.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912730.post-1154225946637837772006-07-30T10:19:00.000+08:002006-07-30T10:19:00.000+08:00Thank God for blogs - if not we'd all die of bored...Thank God for blogs - if not we'd all die of boredom. There are so many interesting blogs that u can just do away with newspapers, dont u think?Kak Tehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00856864485917633260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912730.post-1154224535894922922006-07-30T09:55:00.000+08:002006-07-30T09:55:00.000+08:00i think what you say is quite right, boolicious .....i think what you say is quite right, boolicious ... there are checks and balances built into blogs - they are called COMMENTS and where the comments are switched off other bloggers can post LINKS to the original post<BR/><BR/>i hope that my blog helps in some small way to plug a gap that the mainstrem media seems unwilling and unable to plug itself - writing about books and posting reviews. your blog definitely plugs a gap - being a much more impartial and comprehensive source of information on eating out <BR/><BR/>i thoroughly enjoy the blogs i read, which are thoughtful and well written<BR/><BR/>which is more than i can say for many of the articles in the newspapers!!!! 9the malay mail is stunningly vacuous after its remodelling job and it's only inertia that stops me from cancelling my orderbibliobibulihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16456636355933524132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7912730.post-1154223206817024332006-07-30T09:33:00.000+08:002006-07-30T09:33:00.000+08:00Yeah, just like you I was questioning how they did...Yeah, just like you I was questioning how they did their survey. Most of the time people say blah blah, we did this survey but they never clearly state how they designed the survey, what were the limits, the parameters and etc! Sorry, I've been taught before that sometimes it's easy to skew results in a survey and the basic principles of the blogs seems to be completely misunderstood in this survey and I suspect skewed by MMail itself.<BR/><BR/>Like you I cannot believe Msians are so stupid to just blindly read whatever is put on the platter to them. I mean, sometimes the paper also publishes things that are skewed esp when they are helping a company advertise one item rite? Blah blah, this product is good and etc....<BR/><BR/>I mean in my food review context, most of the reviews in the papers are paid by the restaurant so they always say it's nice. Mine ain't as it's my personal review and becoz tastebuds differ from one person, I always disclaim and warn people. I also find food reviews subjective hence I also add other reviewers' comments (if any) so the reader can also read other people's views.boo_licioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00727039659969643180noreply@blogger.com